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[[Category:Public]][[Category:Hydra Frigates]]
 
[[Category:Public]][[Category:Hydra Frigates]]
 
==General Info==
 
==General Info==
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*Special Ability: 15% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength and 10% bonus to ECM Target Jammers' capacitor need per level.
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* Bonuses: 15% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength and 10% bonus to ECM Target Jammers' capacitor need per level
  
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This is a standard T1 Griffin setup, and is the recommended setup for PvP-BASIC. Griffins are excellent force multipliers, and are perhaps the single most useful T1 frigate that there is. Flying a Griffin on PvP-BASIC (or almost any fleet) is a great idea, and will make you both popular and attractive!
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Griffins are excellent force multipliers, and are perhaps the single most useful T1 frigate there is. Flying a Griffin on PvP-BASIC (or almost any fleet) is a great idea, and will make you both popular and attractive! It is, however, flimsy and easily destroyed, so it requires a much higher level of situational awareness when flying than most other frigates.
  
 
==Flying a Griffin ==
 
==Flying a Griffin ==
  
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When flying a Griffin, you are very likely to find yourself named primary, so be aligned and ready to warp out to the nearest planet or tactical if you are attacked. Depending on the situation, you may want to warp back in at range (30-50km in order to be in optimum ECM range), or just warp back to the bulk of the fleet.
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When flying a Griffin, you WILL be called primary.  So the most important things to remember for Griffin pilots are the following:
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* Always be the last to hop through the gate when the fleet is going through a gate together.
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* Always be the last to break gate cloak when the fleet has hopped through a gate into a fight (and in general, just always break gate cloak last)
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* THE MOMENT you land in a fight, immediately start aligning OUT of the fight.  The MOMENT you are yellowboxed, and/or see drones heading towards you, warp out and then warp back in range to the fight.  Do not wait till you are red-boxed.
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* In class, we'll show you how to drop a "bounce" bookmark, get in the habit of dropping one of these bookmarks as we warp into every fight.  (basically just drop a bookmark right around 2,000km from warp bubble collapse while warping to a fight; the bookmark will be created roughly 300-500km from where you actually land, making a great on-grid or nearly-on-grid "bounce" point.  Try to practice this technique before the roam if you can. It's a ship-saver.
  
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Remember that you are not filling a DPS role, so damage is not a priority. Your primary role is to reduce DPS of enemy ships and stay alive by keeping at range, and the griffin is very effective at this. If the fleet has no EWO or has been directed to spread jams, lock multiple targets then activate one jammer on each target and let them run cycles on auto-repeat. Try to match colors of your jammers to background color of locked target. Once a gray countdown bar appears below the target window, that target has been jammed so it would be wasteful to activate a second jammer on it. If some particular targets have been called as primary for ECM group, turn auto-repeat off on your jammers and cycle them manually on targets specified.
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Remember that you are not filling a DPS role, damage is not the priority of the Griffin pilot. Your primary role is to reduce DPS of enemy ships, cause our targets to yell at their computers in frustration, and '''stay alive''' by keeping at range.
  
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Most pilots choose to fit racial ECM instead of multispectral ECM. Racial ECM has better range and lower capacitor use, which would allow you to keep further away and keep your cap stable if your cap skills aren't very high. However, racial ECM requires more micromanagement, and requires you to be engaging multiple ships of different races in order to be most effective - multispecs are more effective if you are engaging a single or very small group of targets, or the fleet has very few jammers. For BASIC, we ask that you fit racial jammers only. If you are unfamiliar with ship types, the easy way to match racial ECM to target is to lock multiple ships and match the colors on ECM modules to the background of the target window (i.e. red ladar jammers jam Minmatar ships with red background, yellow radar jammers jam Amarr ships with yellow background, and so on).
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If the fleet has no EWAR officer, or has been directed to spread jams, lock multiple targets then activate one jammer on each target and let them run cycles on auto-repeat. Try to match colors of your jammers to the background color of the locked target. Once a gray countdown bar appears below the target window, that target is jammed so it would be wasteful to activate a second jammer on it. If some particular targets have been called as primary for ECM group, turn auto-repeat off on your jammers and cycle them manually on targets specified.
  
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'''Beware of bombs!''' Griffin is one of the frigates in game that have larger signature radius. Meanwhile it has very few hit points. It will get wiped out with 2 bombs thrown by stealth bombers. If you see more than 2 bombs coming at your Griffin, warp out to a celestial object immediately then come back to rejoin the fleet.
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Most pilots choose to fit racial ECM instead of multispectral ECM. Racial ECM has better range and lower capacitor use, which allows you to keep further away and keep your cap stable if your cap skills aren't very high. However, racial ECM requires more micromanagement, and requires you to be engaging multiple ships of different races in order to be most effective - multispecs are more effective if you are engaging a single or very small group of targets, or the fleet has very few jammers.  
  
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==Example Griffin Setup==
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For BASIC, we ask that you fit racial jammers only. If you are unfamiliar with ship types, the easy way to match racial ECM to target is to lock multiple ships and match the colors on ECM modules to the background of the target window (i.e. red ladar jammers jam Minmatar ships with red background, yellow radar jammers jam Amarr ships with yellow background, and so on).
  
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====Low Slots====
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'''Beware of bombs!''' The Griffin's signature radius is larger than most of the other frigates, plus its base EHP is much lower in general. This means the Griffin can die to a single bomb, although usually it will take two bombs.  If you see a stealth bomber on grid, immediately warp off to a safe spot, hop through the gate (if you know the other side is clear), or otherwise get yourself safe.
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* Signal Distortion Amplifier
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====Mid Slots====
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====Additional Notes====
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* 1MN Afterburner
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* At the staging system, have several of each of the various racial jamming modules available.  The FC will balance out your jammers before the roam.
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* 3x Racial ECM Jammer
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*Note that while the suggested fits below are "rainbow" (one of each), it is more likely that you will be asked to fit 3/1 Minmatar/Caldari or a variation of other racial jammers.
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* Carry a small amount of nanite paste with you, to repair overheat damage.
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* Meta 4 jammers provide the same jamming strength as T2 jammers, but use less CPU.  Therefore, we do not recommend fitting T2 jammers.
  
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====High Slots====
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==Example EFT Copy & Paste==
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* 2x Standard Missile Launcher
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====Drones====
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We have one suggested fit for all Hydra Griffin pilots.  This is our "standard" Griffin fit. 
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* Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
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====Cargo====
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This fit requires Electronic Warfare III. We *highly recommend* training Long Distance Jamming (requires Electronics IV) to at least level III. This suggested fit with just the base recommended skills only has an optimal of 43km (falloff 32km) and a targeting range of 65km.  Training Long Distance Jamming to level III, and your optimal goes up to 56km (32km falloff). For those of you with all level 5 skills, your targeting range goes up to 81km, and your jammers have an optimal of 64km (48km falloff).
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* 1000 units of Caldari Navy light missiles
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* Spare Light Armor Maintainance Bots
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====Rigs====
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These are optional, but some of these are extremely cheap to purchase in trade hubs. Next to each rig in parentheses is the number of calibration points it requires. Griffin has 400 calibration points in total:
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*Small Particle Dispersion Projector I (200) - increases tracking ECM effectiveness, decreases shield amount
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*Small Particle Dispersion Projector I (100) - increases EWAR optimal range, decreases shield amount
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*Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I (50) - improves ship's agility so you can warp out faster, decreases armor amount
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*Small Auxiliary Thrusters I (100) - increases ship's max velocity)
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Due to the high calibration requirement of the ECM strength rigs, fitting 2 of it will leave you unable to fit a 3rd rig, although this will give you the highest possible ECM effectiveness.
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==Example EFT Cut & Paste==
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Here's a version using cheap named modules, which will fit with starting skills:
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[Griffin, HYDRA t1]
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Induced Signal Distortion Amplifier I
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Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
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FZ-3a Disruptive Spatial Destabilizer ECM
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Languid Phase Inversion ECM I
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'Gloom' I White Noise ECM
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'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Flameburst Light Missile
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'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Flameburst Light Missile
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[empty high slot]
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Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
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Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
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[empty rig slot]
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Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
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</pre>
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And here's a t2 variant which will require more advanced skills:
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Although we show T1 missiles in the highs on this fit, '''you may fit whatever you want in your high slots.'''  You are NOT a DPS ship, so do not worry about damage dealing. Rockets are handy against drones, salvagers for the very optimistic, cloaks for the devious, whatever you want in the high slots will work fine.
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[Griffin, HYDRA t2]
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[Griffin, Hydra T1]
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Damage Control II
 
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
 
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
  
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1MN Afterburner II
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Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
 
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM
 
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM
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Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
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'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
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'Umbra' I White Noise ECM
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'Umbra' White Noise ECM
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Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
  
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Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Flameburst Light Missile
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Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
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Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Flameburst Light Missile
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Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
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[empty high slot]
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Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
 
Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
 
Small Particle Dispersion Projector I
 
Small Particle Dispersion Projector I
 
Small Particle Dispersion Projector I
 
Small Particle Dispersion Projector I
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Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
 
 
</pre>
 
</pre>
  
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Note that Meta 4 ECM jammers give the same jam strength as t2, but with lower cap useage and for less CPU.
 
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====Stats====
 
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With cheap named variant and starting skills:
 
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* '''Effective hitpoints''': 1185 (each bomb is capable of dealing up to 800 damage to a Griffin)
 
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* '''Speed''': 731 meters/second
 
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* '''Light Missiles Max Flight Range''': 18.8 km
 
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* '''DPS''': 11
 
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* '''ECM Optimal + Falloff''': 32 + 33 km
 
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* '''ECM Strength''': 4.6 points against correct racial ship type, 1.5 point otherwise
 
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* '''Targeting Range''': 60km
 
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With t2 variant and all Lv V skills:
 
  
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* '''Effective hitpoints''': 1353 (each bomb is capable of dealing up to 800 damage to a Griffin)
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'''Alumni Only: ''' Alumni who are already experienced Griffin pilots may swap out the afterburner for a microwarp drive. Alternatively, you may drop the Dispersion Projector rigs for a second Dispersion Augmentor rig (but be aware of how much that will reduce your jammer's optimal). Students and anyone else who is inexperienced with flying the Griffin should '''NOT''' fit a microwarpdrive, as microwarpdrive = death until you are familiar with evading bombs and smart-bombing battleships.
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* '''Speed''': 942 meters/second
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* '''Light Missiles Max Flight Range''': 42.2 km
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* '''DPS''': 29
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* '''ECM Optimal + Falloff''': 72 + 53 km
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* '''ECM Strength''': 9.4 points against correct racial ship type, 3.1 point otherwise
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* '''Targeting Range''': 75km
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Revision as of 09:18, 26 November 2012

General Info

  • Bonuses: 15% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength and 10% bonus to ECM Target Jammers' capacitor need per level

Griffins are excellent force multipliers, and are perhaps the single most useful T1 frigate there is. Flying a Griffin on PvP-BASIC (or almost any fleet) is a great idea, and will make you both popular and attractive! It is, however, flimsy and easily destroyed, so it requires a much higher level of situational awareness when flying than most other frigates.

Flying a Griffin

When flying a Griffin, you WILL be called primary. So the most important things to remember for Griffin pilots are the following:

  • Always be the last to hop through the gate when the fleet is going through a gate together.
  • Always be the last to break gate cloak when the fleet has hopped through a gate into a fight (and in general, just always break gate cloak last)
  • THE MOMENT you land in a fight, immediately start aligning OUT of the fight. The MOMENT you are yellowboxed, and/or see drones heading towards you, warp out and then warp back in range to the fight. Do not wait till you are red-boxed.
  • In class, we'll show you how to drop a "bounce" bookmark, get in the habit of dropping one of these bookmarks as we warp into every fight. (basically just drop a bookmark right around 2,000km from warp bubble collapse while warping to a fight; the bookmark will be created roughly 300-500km from where you actually land, making a great on-grid or nearly-on-grid "bounce" point. Try to practice this technique before the roam if you can. It's a ship-saver.

Remember that you are not filling a DPS role, damage is not the priority of the Griffin pilot. Your primary role is to reduce DPS of enemy ships, cause our targets to yell at their computers in frustration, and stay alive by keeping at range.

If the fleet has no EWAR officer, or has been directed to spread jams, lock multiple targets then activate one jammer on each target and let them run cycles on auto-repeat. Try to match colors of your jammers to the background color of the locked target. Once a gray countdown bar appears below the target window, that target is jammed so it would be wasteful to activate a second jammer on it. If some particular targets have been called as primary for ECM group, turn auto-repeat off on your jammers and cycle them manually on targets specified.

Most pilots choose to fit racial ECM instead of multispectral ECM. Racial ECM has better range and lower capacitor use, which allows you to keep further away and keep your cap stable if your cap skills aren't very high. However, racial ECM requires more micromanagement, and requires you to be engaging multiple ships of different races in order to be most effective - multispecs are more effective if you are engaging a single or very small group of targets, or the fleet has very few jammers.

For BASIC, we ask that you fit racial jammers only. If you are unfamiliar with ship types, the easy way to match racial ECM to target is to lock multiple ships and match the colors on ECM modules to the background of the target window (i.e. red ladar jammers jam Minmatar ships with red background, yellow radar jammers jam Amarr ships with yellow background, and so on).

Beware of bombs! The Griffin's signature radius is larger than most of the other frigates, plus its base EHP is much lower in general. This means the Griffin can die to a single bomb, although usually it will take two bombs. If you see a stealth bomber on grid, immediately warp off to a safe spot, hop through the gate (if you know the other side is clear), or otherwise get yourself safe.

Additional Notes

  • At the staging system, have several of each of the various racial jamming modules available. The FC will balance out your jammers before the roam.
  • Note that while the suggested fits below are "rainbow" (one of each), it is more likely that you will be asked to fit 3/1 Minmatar/Caldari or a variation of other racial jammers.
  • Carry a small amount of nanite paste with you, to repair overheat damage.
  • Meta 4 jammers provide the same jamming strength as T2 jammers, but use less CPU. Therefore, we do not recommend fitting T2 jammers.

Example EFT Copy & Paste

We have one suggested fit for all Hydra Griffin pilots. This is our "standard" Griffin fit.

This fit requires Electronic Warfare III. We *highly recommend* training Long Distance Jamming (requires Electronics IV) to at least level III. This suggested fit with just the base recommended skills only has an optimal of 43km (falloff 32km) and a targeting range of 65km. Training Long Distance Jamming to level III, and your optimal goes up to 56km (32km falloff). For those of you with all level 5 skills, your targeting range goes up to 81km, and your jammers have an optimal of 64km (48km falloff).

Although we show T1 missiles in the highs on this fit, you may fit whatever you want in your high slots. You are NOT a DPS ship, so do not worry about damage dealing. Rockets are handy against drones, salvagers for the very optimistic, cloaks for the devious, whatever you want in the high slots will work fine. 

[Griffin, Hydra T1]
Damage Control II
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I

Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Umbra' White Noise ECM
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I

Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile

Small Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Small Particle Dispersion Projector I
Small Particle Dispersion Projector I


Alumni Only: Alumni who are already experienced Griffin pilots may swap out the afterburner for a microwarp drive. Alternatively, you may drop the Dispersion Projector rigs for a second Dispersion Augmentor rig (but be aware of how much that will reduce your jammer's optimal). Students and anyone else who is inexperienced with flying the Griffin should NOT fit a microwarpdrive, as microwarpdrive = death until you are familiar with evading bombs and smart-bombing battleships.

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