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==Introduction==
  
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== Your Clone and Your Pod ==
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If you play Eve any significant amount of time, you will eventually end up losing your ship either from a PvP or a PvE encounter. Once you lose your ship, you will end up in your pod. You will need to know how to fly it properly in order to avoid getting "podded", in which event your capsule gets blown up as well. When you lose your pod, you will end up in a clone bay inside a station sometimes many systems away from the encounter. You will lose all your implants. As such is very important that you learn how to avoid getting your pod killed.<br><br>
  
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If you play Eve any significant amount of time, you will eventually end up in your pod, either from a PvP encounter or a PvE encounter.
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==Using Implants==
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Once you are in your pod you will need to know how to pilot it properly in order to avoid being "podded."
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Being podded is when someone blows up your pod and then you end up in your clone bay.
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Since the loss of your pod can potentially result in skill point and implant loss, it is very important that you learn how to avoid this as much as possible.
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=== Before You Get Put in a Pod ===
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Implants are attribute enhancers that will increase your character's attributes and thus allow it to train skills at a rate faster than it would train otherwise. To use implants all you have to do is train up Cybernetics skill, stop skill training on your character, then right click on each implant to plug it in. Once you have done this, you can restart the skills training. You will notice that the training times will be shortened as the training is accelerated. This is because training rate of each skill is determined by its primary and secondary attributes that can be seen from information of that skills. Skills train at the rate of:
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When you increase these attributes through the use of implants, the time to finish training the skill goes down.  In fact, +3 implants put in for both the primary and secondary attributes of a skill will decrease the training time 12-15%.
  
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Before you end up in a pod, you need to make sure that you are prepared.
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'''Warning:''' If you get podded, any implants in your head will be destroyed and the training time will be recalculated in response.
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First thing you need to do is to learn how to protect your skill points.
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If you get podded, you will end up back in your clone bay in your clone.
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This is the wrong time to find out that you forgot to upgrade your clone.
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For this reason you should check regularly to make sure that your clone is up to date.
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I check every time I finish a skill.
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If I need a new clone I make sure to buy it right then.
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If I am out in an area where I can't buy an upgrade, I make sure that I go buy a new one as soon as possible, always keeping ahead of my skill points and never going over what my clone covers.
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If you get podded and don't have a clone to cover your skill points, you will lose skill points from your highest level skill.  
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Since implants are destroyed when you get podded, it is important to know how to use them in a way that won't see you in the ISK poorhouse. While a set of +1 and +2 implants is relatively cheap, a set of +3s or +4s can cost anywhere from 10 to 20 million ISK. Players who do not want to pay this price will often either use cheap sets or use a separate clone for pvp (see Jump Clones section).
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This could be very expensive in terms of time lost training your character.
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In general you always want to have an up to date clone because "things" happen and petition queues are long for bug related death reimbursement.
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To upgrade your clone you have to go to a station with a medical facility.
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Another way to avoid paying the full price for losing a full set of implants is plugging in an incomplete set. Most skills in EVE have primary and secondary attributes of either Perception/Willpower or Intelligence/Memory. So simply inject two implants, either perception + willpower or intelligence + memory. While you are in your PvP clone train only the skills that rely on the attributes you have boosted. If you get podded you will then lose only 2 implants instead of 4 or 5.
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In order to find this, you can use your map and set the map to show you "station services" on the map.  
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Then all you have to do is hover over a system with a lit up dot and it will tell you the name and location of the station.  
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Once you find the station, go to that station and dock in the station.  
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Next open the medical bay in the station; in this screen you will find a button to change the station of your clone and another button to upgrade your clone.
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Only buy the upgrade that covers your current points or the next highest if you anticipate exceeding that clone's capacity soon.
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Through the change station button, you can set where your clone will appear when you die.  
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This station must either be a station that you have visited or a station in which your player corporation has an office.
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You can change the station to any of the possible stations on the pop-up menu from the current station that you are at.
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=== Using Implants ===
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==Characteristics of a Pod==
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Pods have the following properties:
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* Pods make though any distance in Eve within one warp, even the 300 AU warp of OJOS-T system in Great Wildlands.
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* Pods enter warp almost instantly.
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* Pods have approximately 500 effective hit points and get destroyed easily.
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* Pods have very low subwarp speed, about 170-180 m/s.
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* Pods are weakest to explosive/kinetic damage types.
  
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Since implants are destroyed when you get podded, it is important to know how to use them in a way that wont see you in the ISK poorhouse.
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One implication of these properties is that it is very easy to enter warp in a pod and thus save it from getting blown up. However if you find yourself inside a bubble and have to crawl to its edge to escape most likely you will get killed. If you get blown up, do not try to fly 15km to try and get back to the gate. Instead warp to a celestial and then back to the gate if required.<br><br>
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Implants are mechanisms that you plug into the head of your character that gives them higher attributes while the implant is in.
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These higher attributes allow your character to learn skills at a rate faster than they could learn the skills without the implants.
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Advanced implants are often worth tens or hundreds of millions of ISK and accelerate your learning greatly.  
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To use them, you train up the right skills (Cybernetics skill is a must) and you plug them into your character.
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To plug them in, all you have to do is stop training whatever skill you are training, right click on the implant and select plug-in.  
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Keep in mind that once implants are plugged in, you can not remove them without destroying them.  
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Installing the implant takes only a couple of seconds.
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Once you have the implant in your head, you can start your skills training again.
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==Getting Out With Your Pod Intact==
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You will notice that the training is accelerated if you used the correct kind of implants.
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When you increase these attributes through the use of implants, the time to finish training the skill goes down.
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Keep in mind that since your skills train while you are off line as well, this can be of great advantage.
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'''Warning:''' If you get podded, any implants in your head will be destroyed and the training time is recalculated.  
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If you end up in a pod after a PvP encounter, the odds are that the enemy will stick around to try and destroy your pod. For this reason you want to be prepared to get it out as soon as possible. When you start getting low on armor and enter structure, it is time to start looking for something to warp your pod to.  
  
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Those that tend to put in a full set of implants need to be much more careful, especially if they are a really high value set of implants such as pirate Snake or Halo implants.  
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Look on your overview and pick any celestial body other than a gate. Warping your pod to a moon is probably the safest option in 0.0, but a planet or belt will also do. If you were in a ship, you would never want to warp to a moon, of course, without scanning it first because of probability of warping into a POS. POS guns however do not target and destroy pods so it is perfectly fine to warp your pod out to a moon. To find a moon easily, right click in space, pick out a moon and click 'warp-to'.  Ideally you have a tab set up on your overview for "GTFO" where you can just quickly click on something to warp away.
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These people are well advised to use jump clones before going into PvP combat.  
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However, it is rare that you will need more than two implants at a time and I would suggest that the avid PvPer use +2s only and only with the attributes they need at the time.
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=== Flying a Pod ===
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Once you have found a suitable celestial object click on it such that you see a box around it. Just before you blow up, start repeatedly hitting the "warp to" button on selected item window. The reason for this is that there is typically lag associated with your ship getting blow up, your pod ejecting, and your character entering a new session. By spamming "warp to" button you are ensuring that you get you pod into warp as fast as possible, since the opponent wont experience that associated lag.
  
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Although a pod has no defense or offense capabilities, it does have benefits.
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While you are in warp, open people and places and make a mid-warp bookmark. As you exit warp, immediately warp to your bookmark. This will give you a semi-safe point to hang out at, at least until your opponents get out scan probes and start scanning you out. Many players, however, will not bother scanning down pods.
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A pod can warp any distance in Eve in one warp, even the 300au warp in OJOS-T in the Great Wildlands.  
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If you get blown up, don't try to fly 15km to try and get back to the gate.
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=== Getting Out With Your Pod ===
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'''Tip:''' make sure to configure your EVE client such that it gives you as little lag as possible. The more lag you have playing EVE, the more likely it is that you will get podded.
  
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If you end up in a pod after a PvP encounter, the odds are that the enemy will try and destroy your pod as well to get the final kill on your character.
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For this reason you want to be prepared to get your pod out as soon as possible.
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When getting down into low armor or structure, if you are going to go down, it's time to start looking for something to warp to.
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Any large celestial body will do other than a gate.
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If you were in a ship, you would never want to warp to a moon, because the POS would destroy your ship long before you could regain control of your ship after warping.
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However, POS guns, in fact any computer controlled gun, will not shoot at a pod.
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To find a moon easily, hold down the alt key and pan around looking for a circle broken by a solid dot on the right side.
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In a large, multi-ship engagement you can choose to stick around with your pod and watch the fight with all the associated explosions. You might also serve to distract your enemy. Some of them will attempt to target and kill your pod, which means that they will losing time and firepower firing at the other ships in your gang.
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Just before you blow up, start to spam the "warp to" button and keep hitting it as fast as you can.
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The reason for this is that there is a lot of lag when you "change session" while your pod is ejecting.
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You need to get that pod into warp as fast as you can because the opponent wont have that kind of lag and will be able to lock your pod fast.
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Once you warp out, immediately start selecting another object in a different location.
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Another moon would be a good choice.  
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Be ready to warp to the other object as soon as you have control of your pod again.
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=== Choosing to Hang Around ===
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A jump clone allows you to do two things, first of all it allows you to jump large distances instantly without having to fly there. Secondly it allows you to keep several implant sets or blank clones for different combat scenarios. As an example; you can have an expensive clone with learning implants for running around in high sec as well as a blank combat clone for high risk PvP.
  
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Sometimes when I get put in a pod, I choose to hang around and watch the fight.
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In a large, multi-ship engagement, the enemy would be foolish to worry about popping pods before ships that are still a threat to them.
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This allows me to watch the fight.
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Whether to hang around and watch a fight or not is a personal decision.
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If you have 100 million ISK of implants in your head, that will affect the decision quite a bit of course.
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=== Undocking in Your Pod ===
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Sometimes you want to be able to move several ships without having to buy and trash shuttles. The solution is simple: undock in your pod. Dock at a station then right click on your active ship and select "Leave Ship". You will end up in your pod. Undock and set destination to the system where you have more ships that you need to haul.
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If you ever want to traverse a big distance in Eve in a short amount of time without needing to bring equipment with you, there are basically two means of doing so.
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The first method is to "clone jump" which we will go over a little later.
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To pod jump, you set the station where your medical clone is and then you essentially commit suicide.  
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Many pilots are afraid of being in open space in their pods. However, pods have many advantages that you might not have considered previously. They can warp to POSes without getting killed in the process to do some recon work. Pirates can travel through high sec empire systems in their pods without having NPCs targeting and shooting them. Pods can make it through very long warps faster than most other ships.  
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Either you can arrange to get "help" getting podded or you can self-destruct your capsule by right clicking on your cap display and selecting "self-destruct" from the menu.
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The result of this will be that you will end up in your medical clone where you set your clone to.  
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This station very well might be all of the way across the Eve universe.
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Getting podded is something you have to think of as just another isk cost, one that will gradually increase as your character gains more and more skill points. Killing a pod of a 3 year old player is likely to cost him quite a bit of cash but killing one of a newbie won't cost him much. If you know the strengths and limitations of your pod and learn how to pilot it properly, will have a much better time PvPing in EVE.
  
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A jump clone allows you to do two things, first of all it allows you to jump large distances in a few seconds and secondly it allows you to save your implants when going into a potentially hostile situation.
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Latest revision as of 17:38, 5 March 2016

Introduction

If you play Eve any significant amount of time, you will eventually end up losing your ship either from a PvP or a PvE encounter. Once you lose your ship, you will end up in your pod. You will need to know how to fly it properly in order to avoid getting "podded", in which event your capsule gets blown up as well. When you lose your pod, you will end up in a clone bay inside a station sometimes many systems away from the encounter. You will lose all your implants. As such is very important that you learn how to avoid getting your pod killed.

CloningFacilities.png

Using Implants

Implants are attribute enhancers that will increase your character's attributes and thus allow it to train skills at a rate faster than it would train otherwise. To use implants all you have to do is train up Cybernetics skill, stop skill training on your character, then right click on each implant to plug it in. Once you have done this, you can restart the skills training. You will notice that the training times will be shortened as the training is accelerated. This is because training rate of each skill is determined by its primary and secondary attributes that can be seen from information of that skills. Skills train at the rate of:

  • (points in primary attribute + 1/2 points in secondary attribute) = skill points per minute

When you increase these attributes through the use of implants, the time to finish training the skill goes down. In fact, +3 implants put in for both the primary and secondary attributes of a skill will decrease the training time 12-15%.

Warning: If you get podded, any implants in your head will be destroyed and the training time will be recalculated in response.

Since implants are destroyed when you get podded, it is important to know how to use them in a way that won't see you in the ISK poorhouse. While a set of +1 and +2 implants is relatively cheap, a set of +3s or +4s can cost anywhere from 10 to 20 million ISK. Players who do not want to pay this price will often either use cheap sets or use a separate clone for pvp (see Jump Clones section).

Another way to avoid paying the full price for losing a full set of implants is plugging in an incomplete set. Most skills in EVE have primary and secondary attributes of either Perception/Willpower or Intelligence/Memory. So simply inject two implants, either perception + willpower or intelligence + memory. While you are in your PvP clone train only the skills that rely on the attributes you have boosted. If you get podded you will then lose only 2 implants instead of 4 or 5.

Keep in mind that once implants are plugged in, you can not remove them without destroying them.

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Characteristics of a Pod

Pods have the following properties:

  • Pods make though any distance in Eve within one warp, even the 300 AU warp of OJOS-T system in Great Wildlands.
  • Pods enter warp almost instantly.
  • Pods have approximately 500 effective hit points and get destroyed easily.
  • Pods have very low subwarp speed, about 170-180 m/s.
  • Pods are weakest to explosive/kinetic damage types.

One implication of these properties is that it is very easy to enter warp in a pod and thus save it from getting blown up. However if you find yourself inside a bubble and have to crawl to its edge to escape most likely you will get killed. If you get blown up, do not try to fly 15km to try and get back to the gate. Instead warp to a celestial and then back to the gate if required.

Getting Out With Your Pod Intact

If you end up in a pod after a PvP encounter, the odds are that the enemy will stick around to try and destroy your pod. For this reason you want to be prepared to get it out as soon as possible. When you start getting low on armor and enter structure, it is time to start looking for something to warp your pod to.

Look on your overview and pick any celestial body other than a gate. Warping your pod to a moon is probably the safest option in 0.0, but a planet or belt will also do. If you were in a ship, you would never want to warp to a moon, of course, without scanning it first because of probability of warping into a POS. POS guns however do not target and destroy pods so it is perfectly fine to warp your pod out to a moon. To find a moon easily, right click in space, pick out a moon and click 'warp-to'. Ideally you have a tab set up on your overview for "GTFO" where you can just quickly click on something to warp away.

Once you have found a suitable celestial object click on it such that you see a box around it. Just before you blow up, start repeatedly hitting the "warp to" button on selected item window. The reason for this is that there is typically lag associated with your ship getting blow up, your pod ejecting, and your character entering a new session. By spamming "warp to" button you are ensuring that you get you pod into warp as fast as possible, since the opponent wont experience that associated lag.

While you are in warp, open people and places and make a mid-warp bookmark. As you exit warp, immediately warp to your bookmark. This will give you a semi-safe point to hang out at, at least until your opponents get out scan probes and start scanning you out. Many players, however, will not bother scanning down pods.

Tip: make sure to configure your EVE client such that it gives you as little lag as possible. The more lag you have playing EVE, the more likely it is that you will get podded.

Sticking Around

In a large, multi-ship engagement you can choose to stick around with your pod and watch the fight with all the associated explosions. You might also serve to distract your enemy. Some of them will attempt to target and kill your pod, which means that they will losing time and firepower firing at the other ships in your gang.

Whether you pick to hang around and watch a fight or not is a personal decision. If you have 100 million ISK worth of implants in your head, that will affect the decision quite a bit of course.

Jump Clones

A jump clone allows you to do two things, first of all it allows you to jump large distances instantly without having to fly there. Secondly it allows you to keep several implant sets or blank clones for different combat scenarios. As an example; you can have an expensive clone with learning implants for running around in high sec as well as a blank combat clone for high risk PvP.

Please refer to the following article for more information on where to get jump clones: Jump Clones

Shuttle Substitute

Sometimes you want to be able to move several ships without having to buy and trash shuttles. The solution is simple: undock in your pod. Dock at a station then right click on your active ship and select "Leave Ship". You will end up in your pod. Undock and set destination to the system where you have more ships that you need to haul.

Note: if you clone jump or get podded, you will not be able to undock in your pod until you first enter a ship. In this case, simply enter your rookie ship and then leave it.

Conclusion

Many pilots are afraid of being in open space in their pods. However, pods have many advantages that you might not have considered previously. They can warp to POSes without getting killed in the process to do some recon work. Pirates can travel through high sec empire systems in their pods without having NPCs targeting and shooting them. Pods can make it through very long warps faster than most other ships.

Getting podded is something you have to think of as just another isk cost, one that will gradually increase as your character gains more and more skill points. Killing a pod of a 3 year old player is likely to cost him quite a bit of cash but killing one of a newbie won't cost him much. If you know the strengths and limitations of your pod and learn how to pilot it properly, will have a much better time PvPing in EVE.

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